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growing crescendo of evidence that eastern libya, benghazi was becoming a kind of outlawed territory, al qaeda-related groups, radical militias there, and well-known that the place was just teaming with weapons that had been seized from the gadhafi government. it was a very dangerous brew. and there was also incidentally unclassified, open source of information. there had been a previous attack, a bomb exploded outside our benghazi mission, the british mission had been attacked, red cross mission. the british government closed its mission in benghazi. i haven't reached a conclusion but i worry that there was a lot of evidence that was not adequately responded to. >> do you think what susan rice said after the fact should be enough to prevent her from being nominated and successfully confirm ford secretary of state? >> i don't. i mean, i'm -- the question of who president obama nominates for secretary of state is obviously up to the president. that's a right he's earned by his re-election. but i have been over the intelligence, the talking points that were given to ambassador rice. i have
growing crescendo of evidence that eastern libya, benghazi was becoming a kind of outlawed territory, al qaeda-related groups, radical militias there, and well-known that the place was just teaming with weapons that had been seized from the gadhafi government. it was a very dangerous brew. and there was also incidentally unclassified, open source of information. there had been a previous attack, a bomb exploded outside our benghazi mission, the british mission had been attacked, red cross...
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ties to al qaeda were involved. and then yet, went on the sunday show and left a very different impression. let's not forget that on those sunday shows on "meet the press" as well as "face the nation" she also made the statement that al qaeda was decimated. and so it left a misleading impression to the american people. i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was wrong and that no one corrected it, including ambassador rice, even though she had left that impression on every single network, op every sunday show. that left me very concerned about that as well. >> did she say to you that she had reviewed intelligence specifically about benghazi, that had the additional information? she couldn't say so publicly. had she reviewed that intelligence? did she affirm that to you or are you assuming that she had? >> she did review it. >> so, in other words, she knew better than what you're saying that she knew better
ties to al qaeda were involved. and then yet, went on the sunday show and left a very different impression. let's not forget that on those sunday shows on "meet the press" as well as "face the nation" she also made the statement that al qaeda was decimated. and so it left a misleading impression to the american people. i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was...
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qaeda terrorist and innocent civilians. >> that is the defense of the obama administration today. in essence that this program is so targeted it saves civilian lives. what do you say to that in your case? >> well, i think it's very hard to assess that kind of claim without more information. information that the administration refuses to release. it's very easy for administration officials to make claims like this when there's no possibility that they're going to be held to account for the claims, no possibility that some court is going to order them to disclose information, no possibility that they'll be sksd foll -- asked follow-up questions. part of the reason we are in court asking judges to enforce the freedom of information act, asking judges to disclose more information is to allow the public to better assess the kinds of claims that the administration is now making, usually through unnamed officials in leaks to favored media. >> jodi, do you think this is the area where we've seen perhaps the most movement from candidate obama's commitments to president obama's tenure? >> y
qaeda terrorist and innocent civilians. >> that is the defense of the obama administration today. in essence that this program is so targeted it saves civilian lives. what do you say to that in your case? >> well, i think it's very hard to assess that kind of claim without more information. information that the administration refuses to release. it's very easy for administration officials to make claims like this when there's no possibility that they're going to be held to account...
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al qaeda. since september 11, 2001, our country has worked relentlessly to bring those responsible for the worst terrorist attacks in our history to justice. we have made very clear that we are at war with al qaeda. goingalso made clear in after osama bin laden and dozens of others that nobody attacks the united states and gets away with it. and we have made clear that we will do everything possible to ensure that such an attack never, never happens again. that means counterterrorism will continue as a key mission to our military and intelligence professionals. as long as violent extremists pose a direct threat to the united states, our allies and global interests, we have a responsibility to counter that threat. during my tenure as director of the c.i.a. and secretary of defense, i have truly been privileged to meet and work with thousands of professionals who have made this fight their fight, who have put their lives on the line for their country and who have built the most effective global c
al qaeda. since september 11, 2001, our country has worked relentlessly to bring those responsible for the worst terrorist attacks in our history to justice. we have made very clear that we are at war with al qaeda. goingalso made clear in after osama bin laden and dozens of others that nobody attacks the united states and gets away with it. and we have made clear that we will do everything possible to ensure that such an attack never, never happens again. that means counterterrorism will...
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al qaeda. since september 11, 2001, our country has worked relentlessly to bring those responsible for the worst terrorist attacks in our history to justice. we have made very clear that we are at war with al qaeda. we've also made clear in going after osama bin laden and dozens of others that nobody attacks the united states and gets away with it. and we have made clear that we will do everything possible to ensure that such an attack never, never happens again. that means counterterrorism will continue as a key mission to our military and intelligence professionals. as long as violent extremists pose a direct threat to the united states, our allies and global interests, we have a responsibility to counter that threat. during my tenure as director of the c.i.a. and secretary of defense, i have truly been privileged to meet and work with thousands of professionals who have made this fight their who have put their lives on the country and who have built the most effective global counter terroris
al qaeda. since september 11, 2001, our country has worked relentlessly to bring those responsible for the worst terrorist attacks in our history to justice. we have made very clear that we are at war with al qaeda. we've also made clear in going after osama bin laden and dozens of others that nobody attacks the united states and gets away with it. and we have made clear that we will do everything possible to ensure that such an attack never, never happens again. that means counterterrorism...
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she knows that it's al-qaeda affiliated attack. al-qaeda on the run is campaign proposition. that she would have known at the time is not true. the statement issued by the three senators emphasizes that there are three scandals. before, during, after. where was the president and why wasn't there help? in the aftermath of this deception this is important to emphasize that. why are you obsessing over the talking point? just today the acting c.i.a. director said at one point in the day, the f.b.i. removed the reference. six hours later it's not true. this is a new change of story. that is happening now, what? two months later. so this is very clear that what she said needs to explained and the irony is obama will keep it alive. if he nominates her. that will keep it alive. other the main stream media will walk away. now that the sex scandal is less interesting. >> bret: is a potential nomination in jeopardy and one senator seems to be saying i will hold out. >> we have to say unless graham and mccain get more converts she could get confirmed. they have to keep enough republican
she knows that it's al-qaeda affiliated attack. al-qaeda on the run is campaign proposition. that she would have known at the time is not true. the statement issued by the three senators emphasizes that there are three scandals. before, during, after. where was the president and why wasn't there help? in the aftermath of this deception this is important to emphasize that. why are you obsessing over the talking point? just today the acting c.i.a. director said at one point in the day, the f.b.i....
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an al qaeda affiliate was behind this. if so, that's -- that's their accusation, that she was misleading the public. >> all right. dana bash, reporting live from capitol hill this morning. >>> good news for the u.s. housing market. a report released just about an hour ago shows that home prices are up about 3.6% from a year ago. that is the biggest quarterly percentage gain in two years. the rebound spurred by a combination of record low mortgage rates and improving job market and a drop in foreclosures to a five-year low. >>> and also just into the newsroom, more signs of recovery. consumer confidence, it hit a four-year high. alison kosik joins us from the new york stock exchange. wow, i'm feeling pretty good this morning. >> reporter: you and a lot of other americans surveyed in this report. yeah. looks like the consumer is in a better place than they were, say, a few years ago. as you said, consumer confidence reaching a four-year high in november. this rise better than expected. americans said that they're feeling mor
an al qaeda affiliate was behind this. if so, that's -- that's their accusation, that she was misleading the public. >> all right. dana bash, reporting live from capitol hill this morning. >>> good news for the u.s. housing market. a report released just about an hour ago shows that home prices are up about 3.6% from a year ago. that is the biggest quarterly percentage gain in two years. the rebound spurred by a combination of record low mortgage rates and improving job market...
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. >> we may have had an organized terrorist group that may have been affiliated with al qaeda behind the attack in benghazi. i don't think it would be that difficult for her to give a discussion of what transpired in benghazi. >> you dealt with the talking points when you served at the white house. normally before sunday's show the communicators and those that drafted the talking points will prepare the individuals especially when they are going to do multiple shows. we don't know whether that happened here. if it didn't, you learn how to make a more nuanced argument. but you don't speak. frankly, this was poorly handled. and she went out there making it sound crystal clear and she was poorly served and she didn't use the talking point that she had given. >> you went to libya before the terrorist attack and you were warning that al qaeda was gaining a foot hold in labibya. what do you think as to why those references were deleted. wolf, these talking points went to a dozen agencies and nobody took responsibility for the clearing of them. it is a beurocraaurocratic fumb the fact that
. >> we may have had an organized terrorist group that may have been affiliated with al qaeda behind the attack in benghazi. i don't think it would be that difficult for her to give a discussion of what transpired in benghazi. >> you dealt with the talking points when you served at the white house. normally before sunday's show the communicators and those that drafted the talking points will prepare the individuals especially when they are going to do multiple shows. we don't know...
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to respond to al qaeda one attack at a time. he told me he was tired of swatting flies. the president says i have no hesitancy about going after him, but i didn't feel that sense of urgency, and my blood was not nearly as boiling. >> every morning that summer bush received a president's daily brief or pdb outlining security threats to the united states. >> isn't it a fact dr. rice that the august 6th pdb warned against possible attacks in this country and i ask you whether you rm the title of that pdb. >> i believe the title was bin laden determined to attack inside the united states. now, the pdb -- >> thank you. >> no -- >> i will get -- >> i would like to finish my point here. >> i didn't know there was a point. >> you asked me whether or not it warned of attacks. >> i asked you what the title was. >> you said did that warn of attacks? it did not warn of attacks inside the united states. it was historical information based on old reporting. there was no new threat information and it did not, in fact warn of any coming attacks
to respond to al qaeda one attack at a time. he told me he was tired of swatting flies. the president says i have no hesitancy about going after him, but i didn't feel that sense of urgency, and my blood was not nearly as boiling. >> every morning that summer bush received a president's daily brief or pdb outlining security threats to the united states. >> isn't it a fact dr. rice that the august 6th pdb warned against possible attacks in this country and i ask you whether you rm...
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qaeda -- and the ft al qaeda. that is why 68,000 troops remain in outside the today -- in al qaeda today. together they are battling violent insurgency that seeks to topple the afghan government. they have not given up on that effort, and they seek to be able to return to afghanistan to provide sanctuary for extremists. if we are to defeat all kinda -- al qaeda, that cannot happen, and we remain determined to prevent all kinda from ever again launching a terrorist attack on america. since the surge troops were ordered by president obama and arrived in afghanistan, we have continued to put pressure on the taliban-led insurgency and dealt a real blow and made process, and i believe in and afghanistan that can secure itself against that threat. earlier this month and now i conducted an in-depth analysis. by nearly every indication, the insurgency has been significantly weakened. violence levels decrease in 2011 and 2012. the insurgency has been pushed out of centers and strategic areas. security dramatically improved
qaeda -- and the ft al qaeda. that is why 68,000 troops remain in outside the today -- in al qaeda today. together they are battling violent insurgency that seeks to topple the afghan government. they have not given up on that effort, and they seek to be able to return to afghanistan to provide sanctuary for extremists. if we are to defeat all kinda -- al qaeda, that cannot happen, and we remain determined to prevent all kinda from ever again launching a terrorist attack on america. since the...
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al qaeda. this is about one hour and 15 minutes. >> good evening. thank you for coming. it is an honor to be introducing my boss. he is one of the most respected and experienced hands in washington. his reputation is legendary. he's chairman of the house budget committee when the actually passed a budget. his chief of staff to president clinton in the white house. now secretary of defense. what in the world are you going to do next? this is not action do justice to the man. leon panetta is a wonderful human being and in some ways a man of contrasts. i am going to give you examples. he is known among his counterparts around the world for his warm italian bear hugs. he is also known for the laser light focus he displayed on hunting down osama bin laden. he often holds meetings in his pentagon office with his dog curled up around his feet as he is pressing a commander on how a war plan is going to advance or how they are going to make more progress. when traveling, who he is known to hang out in t
al qaeda. this is about one hour and 15 minutes. >> good evening. thank you for coming. it is an honor to be introducing my boss. he is one of the most respected and experienced hands in washington. his reputation is legendary. he's chairman of the house budget committee when the actually passed a budget. his chief of staff to president clinton in the white house. now secretary of defense. what in the world are you going to do next? this is not action do justice to the man. leon panetta...
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al-qaeda is now set up training camps in western iraq. iranian airplanes are flying iraq from syria and our failure to intervene in any way and establishing a safe zone, al-qaeda is coming in there in droves. when this thing ends and all conflicts do end, we're going to have one heck of a time with the al-qaeda elements that have moved in to syria and it it's going to be very difficult. iranians continue on path to nuclear weapons. afghanistan is also unraveling to the degree that everybody thinks that the suns leaving because that is what the president has said. they are accommodating to that eventually quality. >> north america, northern mali has been taken over by al-qaeda. weak leadership has led to enormous, i say long term challenges and chaos and frankly difficulties that we will be facing for a long time. >> which. >> which country would keep you more up at night, egypt or syria? >> probably syria. egypt is very concerning also but syria is much more near term problem in terms of the upheaval that is under way in syria in relation
al-qaeda is now set up training camps in western iraq. iranian airplanes are flying iraq from syria and our failure to intervene in any way and establishing a safe zone, al-qaeda is coming in there in droves. when this thing ends and all conflicts do end, we're going to have one heck of a time with the al-qaeda elements that have moved in to syria and it it's going to be very difficult. iranians continue on path to nuclear weapons. afghanistan is also unraveling to the degree that everybody...
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al qaeda will largely take place outside declared combat zones. using a small footprint approach that includes precision operations, partnered activities with foreign, special force operations and capacity building so that partner countries can be more effective in combatting terrorism on their own. >> panetta also said associated al qaeda groups are making in roads. >>> republican lawmakers are stepping up their opposition to the nomination of susan rice to be the next secretary of state. they said she was misleading about who was behind the attack on u.s. consulate in benghazi. terrorism was cut out of talking points. the direct of national intelligence, the dni. >> reporter: u.n. ambassador susan rice relied on those talking points during an appearance on "face the nation" where she called it a spontaneous demonstration. not an act of terrorism. >> we do not have information at present that leads to us conclude this was premeditated or preplanned. >> reporter: republicans have accused her of intentionally making misleading statement, suggesting
al qaeda will largely take place outside declared combat zones. using a small footprint approach that includes precision operations, partnered activities with foreign, special force operations and capacity building so that partner countries can be more effective in combatting terrorism on their own. >> panetta also said associated al qaeda groups are making in roads. >>> republican lawmakers are stepping up their opposition to the nomination of susan rice to be the next secretary...
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so, to have put someone out there, saying al qaeda was -- and ansar al sharia was responsible for this, it wouldn't have fit with the narrative that had been really the main topic point since the democratic convention. in my mind, i think that influenced it. >> so let me clarify that. but wasn't that the cia change? they're the ones who edited the talking points so that it wouldn't say al qaeda and i think they used the word to protect their sources, it would say extremist. they made that edit, which to me again seems to go back to the intelligence community. it's not that susan rice got a long list of talking points and said, ooh, i don't want to say al qaeda. let me cross that out. i'm going to use the word extremist. she was given talking point that is removed that word al qaeda and put extremist. isn't that correct? >> who in the administration said susan rice should be the person out there talking about this in the first place? >> so you just don't like her? >> there was the real time information -- no. the real time information that our consulate was under attack. and i'll tell y
so, to have put someone out there, saying al qaeda was -- and ansar al sharia was responsible for this, it wouldn't have fit with the narrative that had been really the main topic point since the democratic convention. in my mind, i think that influenced it. >> so let me clarify that. but wasn't that the cia change? they're the ones who edited the talking points so that it wouldn't say al qaeda and i think they used the word to protect their sources, it would say extremist. they made that...
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this week apparently al qaeda was taken out. my belief is that the intel -- there was a mountain of intel to display the video characteristic. there was none that said this was a spontaneous event and the story created by ambassador rice and the president himself for seven days was far out of sync with the intell and it was a political smoke screen and not what happened to those four dead americans in benghazi and we will get to it like we got to the bottom of iran-contra. >> without question. gentlemen, thank you both very much. >> when we come back our powerhouse round table is ready to talk about the fiscal cliff and ben affleck coming up in 90 seconds. smith. all that begins in 90 seconds. companies used to view us as demographics. because they couldn't see what made people different. today, retailers from the us to japan are using analytics to find insight in social chatter, reviews and sales transactions. helping some companies increase online revenue up to 50% by offering customers an experience as unique as they are. tha
this week apparently al qaeda was taken out. my belief is that the intel -- there was a mountain of intel to display the video characteristic. there was none that said this was a spontaneous event and the story created by ambassador rice and the president himself for seven days was far out of sync with the intell and it was a political smoke screen and not what happened to those four dead americans in benghazi and we will get to it like we got to the bottom of iran-contra. >> without...
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al-qaeda is on the rise. they've reconstituted themselves in many places. they're all over the middle east, including pouring into syria as we speak, as well as libya, iraq, etc. >> greta: what did she say? >> she said, well, maybe i should have said core, that we have decimated core al-qaeda. well, first of all, that's a directly vastly different from what she actually said. number two is that really is kind of meaningless to take out core al-qaeda. but again, i want to emphasize many of these questions are right at the doorstep of the president of the united states. why did he on the 25th, two weeks later, talk to the united nations about hateful videos? why is he that he told "60 minutes" that he did not know what was the cause of the attack on benghazi when he claimed in the debate with mitt romney that he had called it a terrorist act at the white house, which he had not done so. he continued to go on various shows talking about hateful videos and not knowing -- >> greta: entertainment shows i might add. for the most part entertainment shows. all right
al-qaeda is on the rise. they've reconstituted themselves in many places. they're all over the middle east, including pouring into syria as we speak, as well as libya, iraq, etc. >> greta: what did she say? >> she said, well, maybe i should have said core, that we have decimated core al-qaeda. well, first of all, that's a directly vastly different from what she actually said. number two is that really is kind of meaningless to take out core al-qaeda. but again, i want to emphasize...
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somebody took the word al-qaeda out of the talking points. congress needs to hold hearings. i think the senate was up holding their responsibility as well as the house of representatives on this issue. >> so it appears to be larger part of a strategy to protect susan rice for her to become intersect. democrats say that is true. why the focus on getting susan rice into this job and since she occupies the job you once held, is he is qualified to be secretary of state. is she? >> i'm always glad to see u.s. ambassadors make something of themselves after that assignment. i don't hold it against her. i think what it may show the president doesn't want to nominate john kerry to be secretary of state. he thought he had first term. now it looks like he may get the defense department as a consolation prize which is frightening. the real point, it's not simply the paper trail of these talking points. the administration as a whole including the white house spokesman, including the president himself on multiple occasions was following a narrative that the benghazi attack was caused by t
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accused of trying to join al qaeda and wage violent jihad against america. >>> let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, no cease-fire. the killing continues in israel and gaza. the conflict in its seventh day. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton in jerusalem tonight. she arrived late and went straight to a meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> america's commitment to israel's security is rock-solid, and unwavering. that is why we believe it is essential to deescalate the situation in gaza. >> deescalate the situation in gaza. what does deescalate mean? there was a spade of rockets just a moment ago, but yet that's the key word being used by the administration. during a brief press conference with prime minister netanyahu, there was no mention of a cease-fire. netanyahu said israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend itself. and egypt, which is brokering a deal between the two sides, cancelled a press conference where officials were expected to announce a deal with terms for a cease-fire. tomorrow, se
accused of trying to join al qaeda and wage violent jihad against america. >>> let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, no cease-fire. the killing continues in israel and gaza. the conflict in its seventh day. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton in jerusalem tonight. she arrived late and went straight to a meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> america's commitment to israel's security is...
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he says rice denied al qaeda's lead role in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the lives of the ambassador and three others and she did so knowing it was true. well, the man who defeated mccain in the 2008 presidential campaign takes this as a personal shot at him. how will he respond? will he name ambassador rice his new secretary of state to replace hillary clinton? will he meet mccain's challenge head on and send rice up to the capitol to go face-to-face with the enly? tonight we study the battlefield and the fire power. mccain sure wants this fight, but do his fellow republicans? do they want an older white guy taking on the xre tense of a young woman of color, a rhodes scholar of solid reputation? most important what end does the president want for this match of fact and wits? i'm joined by michael o'hanlon of the brookings institution and jonathan lindie. michael, thank you for this. i want to get to the facts. am i right, is the main charge here coming from mccain and the others that ambassador rice knowingly covered up a n
he says rice denied al qaeda's lead role in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the lives of the ambassador and three others and she did so knowing it was true. well, the man who defeated mccain in the 2008 presidential campaign takes this as a personal shot at him. how will he respond? will he name ambassador rice his new secretary of state to replace hillary clinton? will he meet mccain's challenge head on and send rice up to the capitol to go face-to-face with the enly?...
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qaeda or al qaeda involvement. >> right. >> they shouldn't have tried to do that. that's an intelligence community judgment. so somebody else -- you know the director of national intelligence, the director of the cia, someone on that staff has to answer for that. that's not susan's problem. susan is out there and she's authorized what to say. the administration always has an early morning phone call on sunday. they go over what the issues are and basically you're told here's what you can say in an unclassified way. >> yeah. erin, i think there's a problem here. first of all, they could have told us that there were other potential scenarios out there instead of telling us it was related to a video and it was a demonstration, which both turned out to be completely wrong now. so i think they could have come out, they could have been more cautious and said there's a lot of possibilities out here. and this is one of them that we're looking at, you know, the video and the demonstration. but i think they really did not want to say on september 11th that an american sovere
qaeda or al qaeda involvement. >> right. >> they shouldn't have tried to do that. that's an intelligence community judgment. so somebody else -- you know the director of national intelligence, the director of the cia, someone on that staff has to answer for that. that's not susan's problem. susan is out there and she's authorized what to say. the administration always has an early morning phone call on sunday. they go over what the issues are and basically you're told here's what...
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, a one-time al-qaeda leader at yemen who we've since killed. the feds have also linked al-awlaki to fort hood massacre. the attempted underwear bombing on a flight to detroit, the botched times square car bombing. he was a big deal until he got droned in yemen last year. adam housley is in los angeles. what do we know about the suspects? >> yeah. the four suspects are from the inland empire of southern california. about an hour to the east. we know this, the leader was a 34-year-old, a naturalized u.s. citizen from afghanistan. he was arrested in afghanistan. the other three were arrested here. ralph deleon, the other awaiting citizenship here in the u.s. and another man from riverside. the four of these men all wanted to join the taliban. >> they discussed wanting to join the taliban and ultimately graduating to joining al-qaeda, who they referred to as the professors. >> as part of al-qaeda, the f.b.i. alleges they wanted to blow up american sites, kill american soldiers and cause mayhem. >> shep: they only talked about this. they didn't do a
, a one-time al-qaeda leader at yemen who we've since killed. the feds have also linked al-awlaki to fort hood massacre. the attempted underwear bombing on a flight to detroit, the botched times square car bombing. he was a big deal until he got droned in yemen last year. adam housley is in los angeles. what do we know about the suspects? >> yeah. the four suspects are from the inland empire of southern california. about an hour to the east. we know this, the leader was a 34-year-old, a...
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they're accused of trying to join al qaeda and wage violent jihad against american troops. "outfront" continues. is a complete multivitamin wom+ designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. to support cell health. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense, from td ameritrade. >>> our third story "outfront." a plot to kill a
they're accused of trying to join al qaeda and wage violent jihad against american troops. "outfront" continues. is a complete multivitamin wom+ designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. to support cell health. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates...
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they don't walk around with a card that says i'm from al qaeda. they will be accused of a crime and there will be facts. someone must judge the facts. that's what a jury does. to give up on this because we're afraid of terrorists is to give in to the terrorists. if we give up our rights, if we relinquish our rights, haven't the terrorists then won? jefferson said that the right to trial by jury was the anchor. it was the anchor by which we protect the principles of the constitution. senator la la follette, a senator from wisconsin, said that if we give up these rights, if we are unable to protect these rights, that ultimately the bill of rights loses its value. he said let no man think that we can deny civil liberties to others and retain it for ourselves. when zealous agents of the government arrest suspected radicals without warrant, hold them without trial, deny them access to counsel and admission of bail, we have shorn the bill of rights of its sanctity. i would ask today of my colleagues that we have a chance to replace fear with confidence,
they don't walk around with a card that says i'm from al qaeda. they will be accused of a crime and there will be facts. someone must judge the facts. that's what a jury does. to give up on this because we're afraid of terrorists is to give in to the terrorists. if we give up our rights, if we relinquish our rights, haven't the terrorists then won? jefferson said that the right to trial by jury was the anchor. it was the anchor by which we protect the principles of the constitution. senator la...
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for example, she also said al qaeda was decimated. that is pat. ly false. i asked why that statement should be made to the american people and she really had no good answer for it. there was lots of classified information that she gets briefed on that indicated this was not a hateful video that sparked a spontaneous democrat congratulation. i still don't understand why anyone who believe when you come with mortars and rocket propelled grenades how that could possibly be viewed as a spontaneous demonstration. there are a lot of layers to this. >>neil: we tried for ambassador rice and we got a statement from her office, saying we wish that we had perfect information days after the attack. the intelligence often, the assessment has evolved. >>guest: that is another big question, why would it have evolved? there were people who were survivors who were flown to germany who were interviewed by the f.b.i. they told, they said, absolutely, there was no demonstration. yet for a couple of weeks the intelligence community seemed to be wrestling with intelligence and o
for example, she also said al qaeda was decimated. that is pat. ly false. i asked why that statement should be made to the american people and she really had no good answer for it. there was lots of classified information that she gets briefed on that indicated this was not a hateful video that sparked a spontaneous democrat congratulation. i still don't understand why anyone who believe when you come with mortars and rocket propelled grenades how that could possibly be viewed as a spontaneous...
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. >> director of fashionnal intelligence james clapper now changing his story about who moved al qaeda from the talking points from the ghazi terrorist attack that left four americans dead. accordi -- benghazi terrorist attack. he changed the wording before it was passed on to the white house. during the closed door hearings on the attack clapper said he did not know who made the changes. republican chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers demanding an immediate explanation. >> lis questioning two men in connection with the blast that leveled two homes in indianapolis and left two people dead. one of them is being linked to this white van that was spotted near the home on the day of the explosion. neighbors say they saw it outside of the trailer for about two weeks until it disappeared three-days ago. the explosion is being investigated as a homicide case. >>> hopes that hostess will survive may be crumbling. this after talks with the striking baker's union broke down last night. as a result of the texas based company will be back in bankruptcy court lart today. it will
. >> director of fashionnal intelligence james clapper now changing his story about who moved al qaeda from the talking points from the ghazi terrorist attack that left four americans dead. accordi -- benghazi terrorist attack. he changed the wording before it was passed on to the white house. during the closed door hearings on the attack clapper said he did not know who made the changes. republican chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers demanding an immediate...
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, we're tipping al qaeda off? i think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world, and so i just -- this doesn't make any sense to me. >> a lot of this i think it's fair to say doesn't make seine answer to a lot of people. how do you predict that this ends, do you think that republicans will stand in her way and she won't get the job? go with respect to senator ayotte, what the intelligence community was trying to protect was its sources. people whose lives were on the line. and they were making a careful judgment about what they can say publicly that might endanger their sources of information. in terms of the future of ambassador rice i don't know what the president's plans are. she's done an extraordinary good job as ambassador to the united nations. >> the assistant majority leader of the not dick durbin joining us this morning. nice to see you this morning. >> thank you, soledad. >> still ahead on "starting point," bad news for a nation obsessed with bacon. god, bad news. christin
, we're tipping al qaeda off? i think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world, and so i just -- this doesn't make any sense to me. >> a lot of this i think it's fair to say doesn't make seine answer to a lot of people. how do you predict that this ends, do you think that republicans will stand in her way and she won't get the job? go with respect to senator ayotte, what the intelligence community was trying to protect was its sources. people whose lives...
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decimated al qaeda, and leaders saying al qaeda seems to be okay even though bin laden is dead, they're still out there and all of these sympathizers. >> yes, the arab spring is almost two years in the making and it's been a complicated process. if al-qaeda, the full extent of it's ability to attack the united states, killing four americans, in countries -- many countries in the middle east where these kinds of activities are happening, it's not a very good score for al qaeda. they were not a -- it was an easy target, it was overrun. so i don't think you can say al-qaeda is back. they managed to attack and kill four americans in the middle eastern country. you know, certainly, it's worrisome, but it doesn't mean that al qaeda in any way reestablished itself. >> peter, thanks very much, fran, thanks to you as well. they lead some of the countries biggest companies, and they just wrapped up a major meeting at the white house about the so called fiscal cliff, they met with the president, we'll find out what they talked about the. the ceo of goldman sachs is here. . one expert tell lgs us w
decimated al qaeda, and leaders saying al qaeda seems to be okay even though bin laden is dead, they're still out there and all of these sympathizers. >> yes, the arab spring is almost two years in the making and it's been a complicated process. if al-qaeda, the full extent of it's ability to attack the united states, killing four americans, in countries -- many countries in the middle east where these kinds of activities are happening, it's not a very good score for al qaeda. they were...
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and as a consequence, al-qaeda's core leadership has been decimated. >> al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> brian: president obama has said repeatedly and we taped it, al-qaeda's influence has diminished over four years. but that may not be the case of the according to the f.b.i., the four men accused of plot to go join al-qaeda and travel to afghanistan to kill american soldiers. one of which served in the air force. so what does this tell us about the so-called war on terror which we're not allowed to call anymore? peter johnson, jr. what do you conclude from the rhetoric to reality? >> we got trouble. we got trouble in riverside county, california. four people have been charged. one american, three others who were residents, a fellow from the philippines and mexico as well. and they were charged with getting ready to be part of jihad in afghanistan. one of the men, 34 years old, the oldest, has been detained in afghanistan. the others charged here in california. it was based on a sting operation involving a confidential informant. f.b.i. joint terrorist task f
and as a consequence, al-qaeda's core leadership has been decimated. >> al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> brian: president obama has said repeatedly and we taped it, al-qaeda's influence has diminished over four years. but that may not be the case of the according to the f.b.i., the four men accused of plot to go join al-qaeda and travel to afghanistan to kill american soldiers. one of which served in the air force. so what does this tell us about the...
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the talking points originally linked the attack to al qaeda. when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, a decision was made to change al qaeda to extremists for intelligence and for legal reasons. you say you want an answer. that one has been answered in public. everybody knows. also, more questions. >> why were references to al qaeda left out? >> sir, we've known the answer to this one for nearly two whole weeks now. quote, a reason the references to al qaeda were deleted was that the information came from classified sources and the links were tenuous. john mccain going on national television as the point man for this supposed mass cover-up. he does not seem to be familiar with the basic details of the story that have been made public. the basic details of the story he is alleging was covered up. senator mccain outdid even himself when he offered this as his latest piece of smoking gun evidence that something is definitely rotten here. >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the ra
the talking points originally linked the attack to al qaeda. when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, a decision was made to change al qaeda to extremists for intelligence and for legal reasons. you say you want an answer. that one has been answered in public. everybody knows. also, more questions. >> why were references to al qaeda left out? >> sir, we've known the answer to this one for nearly two whole weeks now. quote, a reason the...
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the obama administration has decimated al qaeda. what i'm told she told senators in this meeting is that she regrets not saying that what she really meant, which is that the core leadership of al qaeda was decimated. why does this matter? because that is really -- that goes to the heart of the republican criticism that she was political, that her comments were politically motivated. what she says, i'll read her statement she put out on classified talking points she used. she said they were incorrect in a key aspect, there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. while we wish we had had perfect information days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case the intelligence assessment evolved. we stress that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in this process. brooke? >> i'm told senator lieberman made news on the hill. what did he say just now? >> reporter: very interesting. susan rice came back for another meeting this afternoon that just wrapped up with senato
the obama administration has decimated al qaeda. what i'm told she told senators in this meeting is that she regrets not saying that what she really meant, which is that the core leadership of al qaeda was decimated. why does this matter? because that is really -- that goes to the heart of the republican criticism that she was political, that her comments were politically motivated. what she says, i'll read her statement she put out on classified talking points she used. she said they were...
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qaeda storm in the making. i'm very disappointed in our intelligence community, i think they failed in many ways, but with a little bit of inquiry and curiosity, i think it would be pretty clear that to explain this episode as related that created a mob that turned into a riot was far filled. and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system that we can trust. and if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got bad information on 16 september, they got bad information from president obama days after, and the question is, should they have been giving the information at all? if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? so my belief is, not only is the information bad and i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified to give the scen
qaeda storm in the making. i'm very disappointed in our intelligence community, i think they failed in many ways, but with a little bit of inquiry and curiosity, i think it would be pretty clear that to explain this episode as related that created a mob that turned into a riot was far filled. and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system that we can trust. and if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push...
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but these republican senators think she's lef the impression it's al qaeda in general. last thing i will tell you i was told she did say to the republican senators behind closed doors she regrets saying what she said because she knows it was simply not right. >> where does this go from here? obviously investigating intelligence officials as well, i imagine? >> yes. as i said, the acting director of the cia also in this room. and senators, republicans and democrats, are not thrilled with the information that they got publicly or privately. but the -- what goes on from here more meetings. she's back here, we believe, this afternoon, tomorrow she has a meeting with one senator, bob corker of tennessee, probably others. she's going to make the rounds and she's going to keep trying to persuade senators that what she did was the best she could do at the time. again, she has not been nominated but the fact she's being aggressive in trying to ease the ruffled feathers, that is an interesting and significant development. >> dana bash, thank you very much. appreciate it. [ sirens
but these republican senators think she's lef the impression it's al qaeda in general. last thing i will tell you i was told she did say to the republican senators behind closed doors she regrets saying what she said because she knows it was simply not right. >> where does this go from here? obviously investigating intelligence officials as well, i imagine? >> yes. as i said, the acting director of the cia also in this room. and senators, republicans and democrats, are not thrilled...
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al-qaeda hasn't been decimated. they're on the rise. they're all over iraq. they're in training camps n libya, they're on the rise everywhere in the middle east. there's a lot of questions we have for embassador rice and she would -- i'm sure i'll have the opportunity to discuss these with her. >> chris: you're saying that she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position just as she said. but she's not the problem. the problem is the president of the united states, who in a debate with mitt romney, said he had said it was a terrorist attack. he hadn't. that night on "60 minutes" he said they didn't know what kind of attack it was and he continued -- >> chris: he said in an interview with 60 minutes. >> which we didn't see until after the election. i'm sure it was such an inconsequential statement it didn't deserve the attention of the american people. >> chris: one more aspect. house democratic leader james clyburn said lindsey graham and you have used racial codewo
al-qaeda hasn't been decimated. they're on the rise. they're all over iraq. they're in training camps n libya, they're on the rise everywhere in the middle east. there's a lot of questions we have for embassador rice and she would -- i'm sure i'll have the opportunity to discuss these with her. >> chris: you're saying that she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position just as she said....
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megyn: they say we weren't entirely sure that it was al qaeda. and there was no reason to throw that name out there that early in the ballgame, and we were still investigating and may have had security reasons for not revealing all we knew. >> there were no issues in terms of revealing intelligence sources or methods by talking about an al qaeda affiliated group. it wasn't in fact a spontaneous reaction. they didn't know that with certainty, and that's what ambassador rice led the american people to believe. when they realized the that wasn't a fact. that's where the misleading occurs. you have to ask yourself why. president obama is running for reelection. he didn't want to bust the narrative he had al qaeda on the run. megyn: this is a bipartisan investigation in the senate. democrats including some top democrats have joined in the demands for more information on how this all happened and how we wound up where we are now. what are you hearing now from democrats about where we stand in this investigation. >> they certainly -- i believe they agre
megyn: they say we weren't entirely sure that it was al qaeda. and there was no reason to throw that name out there that early in the ballgame, and we were still investigating and may have had security reasons for not revealing all we knew. >> there were no issues in terms of revealing intelligence sources or methods by talking about an al qaeda affiliated group. it wasn't in fact a spontaneous reaction. they didn't know that with certainty, and that's what ambassador rice led the...
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they sit was al qaeda and somebody changed that talking point. there was testimony late last week from former cia director david petraeus who we are told told the lawmakers the initial documents coming out of the cia was this ambush that killed the four americans in benghazi included the word terrorism and cited al qaeda. but someone changed the language. then we had congressman pete king say they questioned james clapper and all the intel heads on capitol hill about this and they all said we don't know who changed it. we don't know. the pressure is now on for answers because now you have got clapper coming out and saying it was me. but clapper was one of the ones saying i have no idea how it was. that led to intel community chairman mike rogers saying he wants an explanation from clapper himself. eli lake is a national security reporter. these weren't small players who went before capitol hill. it was clapper, it was the acting director of the cia, the head of the national counter terrorism center. and what pete king told us is they all said we
they sit was al qaeda and somebody changed that talking point. there was testimony late last week from former cia director david petraeus who we are told told the lawmakers the initial documents coming out of the cia was this ambush that killed the four americans in benghazi included the word terrorism and cited al qaeda. but someone changed the language. then we had congressman pete king say they questioned james clapper and all the intel heads on capitol hill about this and they all said we...
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because they didn't want al qaeda to know that we knew what we knew. this is classic investigative philosophy. don't let the suspects know you suspect them. it's clear to me there was no mendacity by susan rice, no incompetence, there was no cover-up by the white house. to continue to argue there was any of that is now tin foil hat stuff. there is also now no will to filibuster to block rice. this is perhaps why john mccain has softened his tone. >> but you're saying that she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position just as she said, but she's not the problem. the problem is the president of the united states. >> that's an end, i hope, to the vicious and baseless character attack that has made rice the center of a witch hunt by the right even though she has done nothing to disqualify herself. mccain tried to make her unnominatable but made it so obama will look weak if he doesn't nominate her. he asserted an inappropriate political cover-up. he al
because they didn't want al qaeda to know that we knew what we knew. this is classic investigative philosophy. don't let the suspects know you suspect them. it's clear to me there was no mendacity by susan rice, no incompetence, there was no cover-up by the white house. to continue to argue there was any of that is now tin foil hat stuff. there is also now no will to filibuster to block rice. this is perhaps why john mccain has softened his tone. >> but you're saying that she could...
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qaeda references, not by the zewe we had been told by the director of national intelligence came from the intelligence committee. it's worse than when she went up. she'll see bob corker, known to be bipartisan from tennessee and i don't think it'll be quite as vitriolic as yesterday. she felt she wanted to clear her name and she had been maligned and just been on morning television. that the real issue as jay carney was trying to say what happened before, what happened during but not what happened on sunday morning television programs and there is an investigation that hillary clinton has commissioned. it is a legally mandated investigation being led by none other than the former chairman, joint chief, mike ullin and co-chaired from mike pickering and deputy secretary of state. it's going to be coming out in mid-december and reported to congress and i understand it's going to be very tough on the state department for not ramping up security which many people believe could be the real issue here, not what was said on sunday morning television. but the white house is fighting for her. >
qaeda references, not by the zewe we had been told by the director of national intelligence came from the intelligence committee. it's worse than when she went up. she'll see bob corker, known to be bipartisan from tennessee and i don't think it'll be quite as vitriolic as yesterday. she felt she wanted to clear her name and she had been maligned and just been on morning television. that the real issue as jay carney was trying to say what happened before, what happened during but not what...
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a government official tells us that references to al qaeda and terrorism were cut from the talking points by the intelligence community, not the white house or the state department. the edits came from the office of the director of national intelligence-- d.n.i.-- with the agreement of the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. u.n. ambassador susan rice relied on those talking points during an appearance on "face the nation" on september 16 in which she called the benghazi attacks a spontaneous demonstration by extremists not an act of terrorism. >> we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned. >> reporter: republicans have accused her of intentionally making misleading statements, suggesting they tone down any references to terrorism for political reasons ahead of the presidential election. c.i.a. director david petraeus told congress last week that an early draft of the talking points did include a link between al qaeda and the attack but the official told us someone in the office of the d.n.i. crossed it out because the links were deemed too
a government official tells us that references to al qaeda and terrorism were cut from the talking points by the intelligence community, not the white house or the state department. the edits came from the office of the director of national intelligence-- d.n.i.-- with the agreement of the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. u.n. ambassador susan rice relied on those talking points during an appearance on "face the nation" on september 16 in which she called the benghazi attacks a spontaneous...